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Against the Grain with Dr. Chad Edwards | Tulsa Sports Injury| Podcast 6 – Part 5
Bryan: Why? Why do you think this is perpetuated from the CDC?
Chad: Certainly you’ve got conspiracy theorists that will say, “This is a big conspiracy and the government’s trying to tell us what to do.” Maybe. I just refuse to accept something like conspiracy.
Bryan: Having worked in the government, I can tell you they’re not that smart or organized. I can almost promise you. The conspiracy theory is to cover up how dumb, inadequate they are. I can tell you right now.
Chad: I get it.
Bryan: It’s almost like a guy that doesn’t do his job. What was it, Office Space? The guy with the stapler in the basement. That’s the government.
Chad: I want my red stapler.
Bryan: Don’t take my stapler. This is my stapler. That’s the government. The government is not a high-end, sophisticated CIA agent in most cases.
Chad: I get it. Again, you look at this kind of concept resonates throughout. For example, and I don’t want to go off on this topic too much and we’ll talk more about this in the future, but when you look at dietary recommendations for cardiovascular disease, we’ll talk about no more than 30% of your calories from fat, no more than 10% from saturated fat, blah, blah, blah, blah. Any idea where that comes from?
Bryan: The government.
Chad: It does. In the 1970’s, George McGovern was the chair on some nutritional, I don’t remember the name of his committee, but they were getting disbanded and they decided to come up with one more recommendation. They had some nutritionists come in. They had a senatorial committee. They listened to, I think it was like three days of testimony, and at the end of this, they hired a writer to come in and summarize everything that was done. This writer was not a nutrition writer, didn’t know science, all those things, and he’s supposed to write all this stuff up. He didn’t know what to write up so he goes to one of the nutritionists and got his perspective. His perspective was his biased, right or wrong, but his biased perspective on the way things should be. He wrote that stuff up and that was what was published as the senatorial recommendation.
Bryan: Wow. I think you have to view what’s going on here in terms that everyone can understand. If anyone listening right now, they think about just the people in their office, right? You’ve got an eclectic group of people in your office. The government is the guy who’s not doing his job, who’s kind of lazy, but actually has a nice position within the company.
Chad: Let’s back up. You say you used to work in the government. Let people know, what does that mean? Were you a postal employee?
Bryan: Yeah, I sorted mail.
Chad: I don’t mean that as a knock.
Bryan: No, no, no. I totally figured it all out, right, in the mail room. I was the executive director of a conservative leadership political action committee, which basically meant that I raised money. I worked on Capitol Hill and I raised a large amount of money for presidential, gubernatorial, senate candidates, congressional candidates across the U.S. I got a front-row seat to how things operate because when you’re raising money in Washington D.C., you find out a lot more than if you’re just working on the Hill. I did work on the Hill for Dick Armey and I was trained at the Leadership Institute, so I know Washington very, very well. I graduated from the Leadership Institute there in Washington.
Chad: You’ve met people like George Bush and Bill Clinton and those things.
Bryan: Sure, absolutely.
Chad: I remember you talking about watching Bill Clinton’s prowess in working the room.
Bryan: Yeah, he’s very good. Very good. He’s your typical politician. I don’t know what this has to do with the flu vaccine, but I will say that he is the guy in the office that he’s your sales guy. He’s your consummate sales guy. To that point, you have a lot of different personalities in the government. People need to understand one thing about the government. They’re always behind the 8 ball. They’re always behind the 8 ball.
I’ll give you an example of that. When I was in Washington D.C., I was there in 2000, which is a great time to be in Washington D.C. because you have the Contract with America, if anybody’s old enough to remember all that. Newt Gingrich. I was a Republican, still am a Republican, and it was a good time to be a Republican. Then of course came the election in 2000 and the Al Gore/George Bush thing. You get to see a lot of the face of politics. What you begin to realize is, again, I was there in 2000 and I had not been back since 2000. I came back to Oklahoma. We got married. I came back this last year.
Chad: You and your wife, not you and I. Just to be clear.
Bryan: Yeah. Did I say, “you and I”?
Chad: No, you just said, “We got married.”
Bryan: Because you choose to do these podcasts at 6:00 in the morning that I would ever say “you and I”. It’s not on my mind. I came back. Recently I was invited to the Benjamin Netanyahu speech and I went back. What’s interesting about Washington, it all relates to this topic, is that all the places that I’ve been and then come back to, it was as if time had stood still. They talk about Cuba and how Cuba hasn’t changed, that people are driving old cars, and it’s still in the 1960’s. In Washington, people are still talking about the same things they talked about a decade ago. Still using the same stories that they talked about. Even down to the dress, to the places that they ate. The world has changed and Washington has not. That’s the bottom line. At all. As a conservative, I like some things that don’t change, of course, but I also want to see progress. On both sides of the aisle, there’s been no progress.
I’ll go back to my original point. The government is the guy in your office, or girl in your office, that has a relatively-high position in your company, but everybody knows they don’t really do anything. Then when it’s time to come to the board room, they throw out things that no one can necessarily disprove, but helps them promote themselves. I see this flu vaccine as one of those things.
I can only imagine, although I don’t have the facts, that the CDC, again if you compare to that person in your office, covers their rear by saying, “No, it doesn’t work. The flu vaccine doesn’t work,” off to the side, if you will, “but you should get it because we’ve got an answer for it. Nobody’s getting the flu, right?” They also know, somewhat clever in knowing, that the improved health care environments has decreased the risk of death in flu because of the assistance that you said. The hospitals have gotten better at treating pneumonia and those type of things.
I absolutely believe, have seen first-hand, many cases like this. Maybe not in vaccine, but many cases where the government and government workers generally are very reactive rather than proactive in dealing with these types of situations. I think you can point to this as being one of those cases. It’s very systemic into how government works.