Against the Grain with Dr. Chad Edwards | Back Pain Healing Tulsa| Podcast 10 – Part 1

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Against the Grain with Dr. Chad Edwards | Back Pain Healing Tulsa| Podcast 10 – Part 1


Dr. Edwards: This is Dr. Chad Edwards and you are listening to podcast #10 of Against the Grain.

Announcer: Welcome to Against the Grain podcast with Dr. Chad Edwards, where he challenges the status quo when it comes to medicine. We get into hot topics in the medical field with real stories from real patients to help you on your way to a healthy lifestyle. Get ready because we’re about to go against the grain.

Brian:  This is Brian Wilkes, here, with the Dr. Chad Edwards.

Dr. Edwards: Good afternoon, Brian. How are you today?

Brian:  Good to see your beautiful face again.

Dr. Edwards:  It’s good to be seen.

Brian: It’s good neither one of us can be seen.

Dr. Edwards:  That’s probably true.

Brian: I’m in shorts, oddly shaved facial hair. You see clean-cut today, though. You seem like you’re on your A game.

Dr. Edwards: I try to at least act professional.

Brian: You look like a doctor, you really do.

Dr. Edwards: I play one on TV.

Brian: Hey, think like a proton and stay positive, big guy, okay? This whole show, I need your A game today because we’ve got a big issue.

Dr. Edwards:  That’s the cheesiest thing I’ve heard all day.

Brian:  I love it. Let’s talk about our sponsors, who are probably going to drop us right after the show.

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Dr. Edwards: They’re awesome.

Brian: Yep. Chad, how many MRIs have you had in your life?

Dr. Edwards: I’ve had one, actually.

Brian: Really?

Dr. Edwards: Yeah.

Brian: Was it during your service as a …

Dr. Edwards: It was.

Brian: Okay.

Dr. Edwards: In the military, sometimes we do this executive medicine thing because we’re taking care of our assets.

Brian:  Taking care of your ass-sets. Is that what you said?

Dr. Edwards:  Yeah, taking care of your assets.

Brian: Okay.

Dr. Edwards: Yeah, that’s what I said.

Brian:   Okay, that’s what I thought you said.

Dr. Edwards: Sometimes you have to know what it is that you’re dealing with. Can this person deploy? Do they have an issue that’s going to be covered by health insurance? Are you going to be covering that issue, is it a disability kind of issue? Sometimes we give a little more MRIs than we normally would, to answer some of those issues.

I actually had one because of some foot pain that I got when I was deployed in Iraq and I was running on gravel a lot at the time. They said I actually broke a sesamoid bone in my left foot, little bitty bone. Interestingly, I never took more than a week off running, so I didn’t really know how I did that, but got an MRI and they said, “Yep, that’s in two different spots.” Then I went back and looked at an old x-ray that I had from the early 1990s and found out that that bone was like that way back then.

Brian: Right. I’ve had one MRI. They discovered I had no brain. Are you surprised?

Dr. Edwards:  That’s not surprising, Brian. I didn’t need an MRI for that one.

Brian: That is that. The truth of the matter is, it seems like doctors are MRI happy. They love the old MRI. The question is, is it a great tool or not?

Dr. Edwards: I would say that it can be a great tool, but I would say that getting MRIs is kind of like picking your nose in public.

Brian:  Ooh, I like that analogy. Yeah.

Dr. Edwards: What are you going to do with the results?

Brian:  That’s disgusting. The thing about doctors, especially when you do a show with a doctor, the things they talk about.

Dr. Edwards: Hey, you said that doctors couldn’t be funny and I said, “Challenge accepted.”

Brian: Not on this podcast, and we’re going to edit that out.

Dr. Edwards: That was success.

Brian: Because that’s not a fact, right? We’re only about facts here on this show, right? Let’s talk about some facts.

Dr. Edwards: Let’s do that.

Brian: Is an MRI actually a roadmap for surgery? It seems to me, at least from an outsider’s … Again, I’m just a business guy, I don’t know anything necessarily to any degree about the medical industry. It seems like to me, you’ve got something wrong, especially like when you talked about a foot injury with a little bone or whatever the case is, the path is you get MRI, then you get surgery, then you’re good, right?

Dr. Edwards:  That’s the hope.

Brian:  That’s the roadmap, right?

Dr. Edwards:  Right.

Brian:  Talk about that.

Dr. Edwards: I’m a primary care physician, board certified in family medicine. When I went through my residency, of course I was dealing with a lot of athletes, athletic trainer in college, I was in special operations for several years and these guys are like Olympic-level athletes in the special operations realm. When I was in residency, I was preparing to go out and do some of these things and I knew that musculoskeletal conditions were going to be way up on what I was going to see a lot. I wanted to get some extra training in that so that I could be competent and confident that I could take care of their issues.